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VRBO’s Questionable Review Policy / Shame on VRBO

For those of you who use Vacation Rentals By Owner (VRBO), I’ve recently become aware of a policy that is quite disconcerting:  I believe that their reviews are more geared for making property owners look good than to be useful, transparent and truthful to potential renters.

My fiance and I recently rented a place from the website in Yountville, CA.  The landlord used his good reviews on the site to convince that we’d be very happy with our selection of his house.  Unfortunately the house was rat infested and the landlord was hard to deal with, didn’t want to fix the problem and then fought paying us our money back.

While life is too short to sue for the money, it isn’t too short for me to write review.  I wrote this review of the property:

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First, VRBO informed me that the post would be reviewed by the editors at VRBO to make sure the post conformed to their “standards” (whatever that meant).  Then it took a week to post and when they did,  I noticed that the the listing of the rental place was taken off the site.

Today, the listing is back without my review included. [Note, as of 1/23, the listing has put reviews back on the listing including mine.] So bottom line, VRBO is giving a heads up to their property owners about bad reviews and is allowing them to unpost and repost (with the same web link!) without any ramifications for screwing one of their renters.

Shame on you VRBO.  Your credibility is totally shot now.

January 3rd, 2011     Categories: Uncategorized    
  • http://devver.net/blog wastedbrains

    Very crappy to hear this, I used to love VRBO always had a great experience with them. Sorry to hear it has fallen so low.

    • http://twitter.com/belasco Mike Belasco

      I’ve also used several times and I am a VRBO advertiser and never had any problems.

  • Emily

    Good timing. We were just looking for a VRBO house for Spring Break — will look elsewhere.

  • http://www.redheadwriting.com The Redhead

    You would think that a database of VRBO’s magnitude would have some safeguards in place. For example, a query that compares “new” listings submitted to the VRBO database. It could search deleted listings for up to 365 days and then attach reviews from those deleted listings to the “new” listing. A pretty simple query to write, methinks. It would prevent unethical owners like this from gaming the system.nnSadly for VRBO, I was in the process of booking a 2-week stay in London for the spring through their interface. I’ll be looking elsewhere as I can’t afford to drop coin on places with seemingly good reviews for such a long trip. One night? Tolerable. 14? Inconceivable.nnI hope they contact you and offer some satisfaction, Jason.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for your support. Also, their reviews are by place, not owner. So an owner can have one good place and not be dinged by providing lousy service otherwise.

      • http://www.redheadwriting.com The Redhead

        Exactly – so an owner is even more incentivized to keep his/her properties in tip-top shape, as the reviews are attached to the specific property.nnHoping VRBO takes this all under advisement. I’m sure their Twitter stream is blowing up today (and for good reason).

        • Anonymous

          Yes, but they keep tweeting garbage and pretending this issue isn’t out there / doesn’t exist.

  • http://v3im.com Shelly Kramer

    Wow! I was just thinking of using them for a trip I’m planning in a few months. Won’t be making that mistake! This reminds me of the loser in NYC who ran an optical shop and actually delighted in providing bad service to customers, because of the “seo value.” Well, he delighted in it until the Feds arrested him. This kind of crap is equally as despicable. Gaming the review system – super.nnThanks for the review – I’m sure it will help many.nnShellyn@shellykramern

    • Anonymous

      Like PT Barnum – no such thing as bad press? :)

  • http://twitter.com/Foodstrg Tomorrow’s Harvest

    I have dealt with companies like this and it drives me crazy. I think one of the best places you can really tell people if a company is being lame is on Google places. There they cant delete comments but Im not sure if they are on there and Im not going to look them up because I will never work with them after doing that. But good for you for exposing them.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks

  • http://www.mywealthspa.com Darcie Newton

    What exceptional timing…I was thinking of using this site for our trip to Europe this summer. Won’t waste the time now. Thanks.nnDarcien

    • Perri Collins

      I used it for my trip to Europe last summer and had wonderful results. If you’re staying in Paris or Berlin, I could recommend those places to you.

    • http://twitter.com/weisdan Daniel Weisman

      I’m late to the discussion because I just read about this post via Forbes. Just wanted to reiterate that there are other great Vacation Rental sites out there that do not allow owners to opt out of reviews. Check out http://www.flipkey.com – tons of rentals in Europe with verified guest reviews.

    • Portiaperu

      Don’t consider vrbo a waste of time. There are hundreds (thousands?) of property owners that are doing a fine job of providing a welcoming and wonderful experience for their tenants.nnNot only am I a vrbo and homeaway property owner, I have traveled throughout the US and Europe staying in vrbo properties.nnWe have rented in Los Angeles, West Palm Beach, New York, London, Paris, Provence, Rome, Tuscany, and many other places. The majority of the rentals have been through vrbo (in the interest of accuracy some have been through local market rental sites – but always through owners) and we have been satisfied.nnDon’t write off. rentals by owners – there are some gems/real values to be had by renting through owner. On Martha’s Vineyard, rentals are less expensive through owners. The commission to a rental agent can be a considerable portion of your lodging budget.nnWhatever you decide, enjoy your travels!nnR @ edgartown, manwww.freewebs.com/katamadelightnnnnnnn

  • Lisa

    I have a house listed on VRBO and have rented through them. I have never really liked the way they do business on either end. Unfortunately, they rank high pretty much anywhere. I also listed my property with a property manager and will rent houses that way as well.

    • Anonymous

      Nice to hear from your side of the equation. Thanks for the comment.

  • Anonymous

    Yikes…when I read/hear stories like this, it makes me so glad that we take our home wherever we go in the form of a motorhome…no risk of horror stories like this. So sorry you had such an awful experience. Your comment “Shame on you VRBO” says it all!!!

  • Lori

    Ever since my own bad experience with another large travel review site, who will remain nameless, (and losing hundreds of dollars because the place was completely unlivable), I do not trust any reviews unless they are from trusted friends. Period. nnWhen I used VRBO last year, the owner of the place must have thought I was nuts because I e-mailed her more than once with questions. I did this mainly to see if I got a good feel (and even had a phone call with her before committing). Doing all of this is the only way I will rent a place from an unknown person now, but it does seem to be effective. nnWhy these sites with reviews get away with deleting and moving things up the list is beyond me. I notice that your listing is now ‘Not Accepting Reviews’ and honestly, whenever I’ve seen a listing like that on VRBO I’ve kept on looking. If the owner won’t allow reviews, that almost always means that something is wrong. IMHO. nnOn the plus side, this proves to me that there is still room for a decent review site that is built on the premise that bad reviews cannot be removed or moved to the bottom of the list for any reason.

    • Portiaperu

      You’re not nuts. Not at all. As a vacation rental owner I WANT to talk to potential tenants and get to know them. It works both ways. I’m trusting my guests to take good care of my home (and it is my second home, not just a vacation rental), and they are trusting me to provide a wonderful vacation experience. nnAlways talk to the owner and learn as much as you can about the property you are renting. Questions SHOULD BE welcome – if you feel you are “annoying” the owner or do not get the response you desire. move on to consider another property. nnR @ edgartown, manwww.freewebs.com/katamadelightn

  • http://www.smallhandsbigideas.com Grace Boyle

    Wow. That’s awful. So disappointing and I bet meant others are duped.nnGlad you wrote something and stood up to VRBO.

  • http://freepository.com John Minnihan

    Is http://www.vacationrentalpartner.com/ (techstars 2010) tackling this aspect of the rentals market?

    • Anonymous

      As far as I know, their reviews are sound and yes tackling that part of the market.

    • Anonymous

      As far as I know, their reviews are sound and yes tackling that part of the market.

  • thehalfswede

    I was planning to ask our wedding guests to take a look on VRBO’s website to find suitable accommodations in Crested Butte this June. After reading your review I’m thinking twice about making that recommendation. Of course, after renting a house by owner in Lake Placid, NY, last summer that smelled like stale pot smoke, had dead mice laying around, an oven that smoked us out of the house and furnishings closely resembling what we had in our college days you would think I’d know better. Guess I’m a sucker for giving people, and websites, second chances.

  • http://twitter.com/fionaschlachter fionaschlachter

    What a horrific experience! Ours was not so bad but we did have some problems with property #120003 on VRBO in July 2010. Our experience was not nearly as difficult as yours but having a bathroom out of commission with a party of 21 was a bit challenging (amongst other things that were not working correctly). We stayed there in July and I wrote an honest review of all three houses. Today there are 6 reviews on the site of which 5 are glowing. The one negative review is from March 2010 and there is a long response from the owner. We never got any kind of response. I am not sure I will use them again.

  • http://twitter.com/fionaschlachter fionaschlachter

    Ok, Jason agreed to let me post this. We are a startup in Boulder and we have created a recommendation app for Facebook that will really help in this kind of situation, depending on your friend network. The app is free and called Fidatto (facebook.com/fidatto). It allows you to easily share and request recommendations from your friends. We just added a Vacation category so maybe we will be able to help Jason out next time! Thanks for the chance to promote our startup Jason.

  • http://www.vacationrentalpartner.com Michael Joseph

    VRBO allows owners to ‘opt out’ of traveler reviews if they choose to do so. For those of you interested, there are some other companies doing interesting things in the vacation rental space:nn1. http://www.flipkey.com is the http://www.tripadvisor.com owned competitor to VRBO. Flipkey’s premise is that accurate, truthful reviews are paramount to guests having a good vacation rental experience, and they have a proprietary process for verifying reviews and ensuring that they’re from actual guests. I also believe that they do not allow owners to remove reviews once they’ve been posted.nn2. http://www.vacationrentalpartner.com (a 2010 http://www.techstars.org company, of which I’m a founder) offers an escrow service whereby guest payments are held until after checkin. We help guests feel more secure about transacting with owners as they know that their money is safe in the case that the property is significantly not as represented or does not exist. This benefits owners as well – increasing guest confidence improves the chances that a guest will book the property. We’d certainly love to hear both owner and guest feedback on this approach.nn3. http://www.secondporch.com enables travelers to search for vacation rental properties in your immediate or extended social network. This helps you find a place that a friend (or friend of friend) may have stayed in or owns.

    • http://www.facebook.com/trent.blizzard Trent Blizzard

      Second Porch is now wholly owned by HomeAway.  

  • VAS

    use VacationAuctionSite.com !!!

  • Luke O’Brien

    That sucks. My wife and I have used them several times in the past. Never again. 50% of the buying decision is based on the reviews. If they’re not accurate (or worse…if they’re intentionally skewed), then it’s all just a crapshoot.

  • Joe

    Jason. That is unbelievable. I just launched a new site called JoeOptions.com as a new way for Owners to Market and Travelers to Find vacation rentals. We have created the site which is in Beta with the Traveler in mind. One big difference we have done is to allow and encourage Property Owners to put as many pictures and videos as possible so they can better represent and you as the traveler can see what you are getting. Unfortunately, many of the traditional listing web sites do not allow UNLIMITED photos and videos and charge owners for additional photos which hurts you, the traveler. nnIn addition, we are working on a rating system. We believe in full disclosure and are rolling out new features including allowing a property owner to integrate his facebook wall into his property profile.nnIf you have some time, please check out our site and let me know your thoughts. Here is a simple video that explains JoeOptions in plain english http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kohBjcuPMhEnnWe are in beta and growing very fast. Our goal is to be very agile and always listen to our Customers. nnRegardsnnJoe

    • Anonymous

      Pretty site. You will be shocked that VRBO has ignored all if this bad press meaning they are ripe to be hurt by quality competition. rnrn- sent from iPad. Sorry for iTyposrnJason MendelsonrnManaging DirectorrnFoundry Grouprnwww.about.me/jasonmendelson

  • Halwes21

    Finally people are getting wise to the VRBO scams, etc. Many VRBO rentals listed in High Pointe/Rosemary Beach FL area reverted back to Resort Quest. They messed our reservation up and cost us over $500 to change it. Neither the owner nor Resort Quest would own up to the mistake then the mattresses in the unit were AWFUL and there were bugs in the drawers — VRBO managed to prevent us from posting any of the negative reviews. The owner’s response was that nobody else had made similary complaints — probably because they did not go through VRBO and/or are not computer savvy like my in-laws who also complained about the unit in person the year prior.

  • Stevemassa

    Thank you for posting. We are looking to rent a place on the West Shore of Lake Tahoe for a family reunion (sleeps 10+) for a week. VRBO has been our primary source til now. I will tread more cautiously That said, if anyone knows of a nice place near the West/North shore at Lake Tahoe which will sleep 10+ (6 adults and 6 small kids ) then please reply. July 4th time frame.

  • Carramia

    I had a similar experience. Rented a condo in Costa Rica via vrbo for New Year’s. To sum it up, the condo did not live up to our expectations. Here’s my review:nA friend and I booked this property for two nights (including New Yearu2019s Eve) and immediately wired payment, including a $25 cleaning fee. Joe Scrivo, the owner, assured us that the condo would be ready for our 2 pm arrival. I arrived early (approximately 11 am), and the condo was an absolute horror show; it had not been cleaned from the previous guests. The sink was piled high with dirty dishes, trash was everywhere (including beer bottles both in and around the property), dirty towels were on the floor, and the entire condo reeked of smoke. The shower was filled with sand–so much sand, in fact, that the water could not drain properly. All three beds had been slept in and were unmade. To top it all off, there were broken eggs littering the entrance. n nI immediately contacted Joe via email; I gave him the benefit of the doubt since I was three hours early. To his credit, he wrote back immediately. He told me that I needed to find the cleaning lady and get her working on it. Of course, I did not know the cleaning lady and it wasnu2019t until 2:30 pm when she finally showed up on her bicycle. She told me that the condo would be ready by 3:30, so we waited. And waited. And waited some more. We sat outside the condo from 11 am until 5:30 pm, when the cleaning job was finally completeu2026sort of. The towels that she gave us were damp, and the bedding consisted of only a fitted sheet and a flat sheet (no mattress pad or bedspread). n nBy 5:30 pm, we had lost both an entire day in Jaco as well as qualitative planning time, since we had hoped to book an excursion to Tortuga Island for the following day. I emailed Joe to give him an update and let him know that we were finally able to get into the condo at 5:30 pm. He wrote back that he, too, was on vacation and had been disappointed because his rental didnu2019t have internet and had not been cleaned either. I regret that he had a similar experience, but it does not lessen the fact that he manages the Jaco property and should have been responsible for ensuring that it was ready for our arrival. n nI tried to resolve this amicably with Joe via email, and he offered me a free night in Jaco. I explained that I do not plan on returning to Jaco, in part because of my rental experience at rentjaco.com, and requested monetary compensation to cover lost time. Joe has not responded to my request.n nI would not recommend this property to anyone. There are much nicer, cleaner properties throughout Jaco; do not waste your time and money at this rental.n nI warned the landlord that if he didn’t make this right, I would post a negative review. Apparently he is able to “opt out” of reviews on vrbo, and I’m not able to post my experience. nnShame on vrbo!

    • Kat

      I think you’re out of line on this one. You showed up three hours early – suppose the check out time for previous guests was noon (as an example)? If you had shown up at your appropriate check in time then you’d have something to complain about. That the cleaning lady didn’t show up on time would have cost you 3 and a half hours – not a “full day” – of your vacation time. That she was late cleaning was a legitimate complaint. But that seems to be your only complaint with the owner/property. The world does not revolve around you and you alone. I think you are a renter that makes owners wary of a distorted bad review. I am not a rental owner, simply checking out ‘horror stories’ as I am looking for a property to rent on the north shore of Oahu this summer and have never rented directly from an owner before. If I had seen your review on a property – as you summed it up here – I’d have chalked it up to hysterics and continued considering other reviews of the property if it was of interest to me. Shame on you.

      • Tonedogx

        No Kat, you are out of line. Carramia stated that she gave them the benefit of the doubt because she had arrived early. There’s no disputing that. The fact that the property owner wanted her, “the renter”, to chase down the cleaning lady and have her start cleaning is aboslutely ridiculous. She should have gone sight seeing for 3 hours and then come back at 2pm. (do I blame her for sticking around, no) Then when the room was not ready she would have only waited 1/2 hour for the cleaning lady to show up and another 3 hours for the place to be ready. Yeah that’s much better… Nothing like waiting around on your vacation for a late cleaning lady, to clean a filthy place for you to use, when all you want to do is open the door kick off your shoes, relax, figure out where you want to go for dinner and plan the next days activities. The place should have been ready at 2pm as agreed, PERIOD! END OF STORY! I think you’re taking her comment about losing an entire day a little too literal, obviously she did not miss out on 24 hours, but the inconvenience she had to put up with was inexcusable.nnBy the tone of your post you seem to dismiss her complaint as – oh, the cleaning lady was late, yeah that’s too bad, I don’t know why you would be so upset, it was only a few hours of your time, the world doesn’t revolve around you, get over it. Sure let’s extend that attitude towards other things then… Customer: Waiter there’s a bite out of my steak. Waiter: Oh let me cut out the teeth marks, you still have 90% of it left. HELLO!!! – Are you ef’g kidding me??? nnHere’s a news flash honey – If I am paying my hard earned money for goods or services to be provided to me, then guess what – the world, as far as the person providing the goods or service is concerned, DOES revolve around me. That’s the whole point of customer service you ditz. The customer’s, in this case Carramia’s, world is what they are entrusted to make happy. It’s pretty obvious that this landlord really didn’t give a shite about Carramia’s vacation and the fact he tried to commiserate with her on the lack of service he was experiencing on his own vacation is reprehensible. He should have taken care of his own business up front if he knew he was going to be out of town to ensure that his customer’s world was taken care of first! So Shame on you Kat, sit down and STFU.

  • http://www.RamitNarang.com Ramit Narang

    Thanks for sharing this with us. Its sad to see VRBO not care about their customers. I’ve tweeted this story to all my fans. nnhttp://www.RamitNarang.com

  • CampSteve

    We just booked a house through VRBO (for our wedding) near Boulder just before you posted this. I read the article then. The experience with the homeowner has been good so far.nnHowever, just yesterday, 4 of 5 of the user reviews for the property disappeared from the listing. They were even positive reviews, all of them. It’s mysterious that they are gone which made me think of your experience. Something weird is going on at VRBO.

    • Anonymous

      Something really smelly here. I’m not going to let this rest. Stay tuned, there may be some interesting press about this.

      • http://sco.tt Scott Yates

        Just catching up to blogs… I hope something else does come of this. If you get some wider press, be sure to link to it and thanks for letting us know!

  • Refff99

    That’s right. VRBO doesn’t post bad reviews as I posted one and it hasn’t been posted a weeklater. VRBO is dishonest.

  • http://www.thevirtualasst.com Michelle Mangen

    Jason:nnI mentioned on Twitter that I would leave a comment here and that I had mixed feelings. I am vacation rental owner and do advertise my property on VRBO. I realized that my mixed feelings weren’t actually because I am an owner using VRBO. I’ve had my rental since 2007 and have had a number of people stay there over the course of four seasons. My very first year I had a negative review on one of the sites I advertise on (not VBRO) and that review happened to be entirely jacked up and unreasonable. Whatever site the review was left on did ask me for my side of the story but did two things 1) the review went live, I was NOT allowed to remove it 2) warned me that after 3 negative reviews my property would be removed from the listing. nnHaving a three strikes and you’re out approach upset me, only because their review was unfounded and they trashed my place (but, of course, they didn’t mention trashing my place). nnSince then I’ve had one complaint and in that situation I refunded the couple what they felt was fair which was for two nights of their 8 night stay. nnWhat does this really mean for the purposes of your post? It means that a) VRBO should not allow the owners the option to remove reviews because then the peer system is “broken” b) As an owner who really cares about the stay for my guests it pisses me off that other owners are only out to get as much money as they can in their pockets — essentially at other’s expense. nnAs a number of your commentors have stated below….they won’t use VRBO to book a trip…..could one of those have potentially been a guest at my property? Possibly. I believe it costs me $249/year to advertise on their site and if they allow the sleazy owners, such as the ones you rented from, to deter potential guests from owners like myself…..well, that just sucks.nnFrustrating really from both an owner perspective and guest perspective.nnBTW, when I cancel my advertising with them they will call me and I’ll be sure to direct them to this post.

    • Anonymous

      I’m sorry if my post has caused you pain as an owner, but I think your views are completely reasonable and I wish you the best of luck. I think whatever comment policy they choose, the only one that is helpful is one of open dialogue. For instance, if someone unfairly trashes you, you would have the right to write a response to it. Overt time, the good owners, like yourself, which have a valuable asset of transparency and real reviews.

      • http://www.thevirtualasst.com Michelle Mangen

        Jason – so I saw your new post today which caused me to come back here to the original post. Oddly Disqus never notified me your replied to my comment….or I would have been back sooner.nnNo, no…your post didn’t cause me any pain as an owner. It actually caused me to change my perspective because I was initially looking at it as an honest owner….and not taking into account that not all owners are honest.

  • Refff99

    That happenned to me also. I posted a review of unit # 245472 – “Gorgeous Palm Valley Condo with Fairway, Water Mountain Views”. Th return of the deposit took me having to threaten legal action to get $500 back. The unit was ok, but the train rattling the condo and the old furniture was not goo.n

  • http://gregcohn.com/blog gscohn

    This is just despicable. nnAnd by “this,” I primarily mean raising $400 million to solve a market fragmentation problem, buying up all the available market share, and still putting forward such a crappy customer experience.nnBut also their reviews policy.

    • Anonymous

      Amen. rnrn———————-rnJason Mendelson

  • http://gregcohn.com/blog gscohn

    This is just despicable. nnAnd by “this,” I primarily mean raising $400 million to solve a market fragmentation problem, buying up all the available market share, and still putting forward such a crappy customer experience.nnBut also their reviews policy.

  • Carl

    These are all reasons why one should use a professional manager when renting a home. Renting a VRBO is a roll of the dice. Now that is not to say there are not bad managers out there, but doing due diligence on a professional manager is much easier. They tend to follow all local laws, are members of Chamber of Commerce and do this as a business not a hobby. Also if there is a problem with a home chances are the manager has another home to move you to. They are also have staff on site as opposed to an owner who could live thousands of miles away, leaving you to your own devices if a problem arises.nnYes you may pay a little more for a professionally managed home but you gain a lot of peace of mind.

    • http://www.vrbo.com/138908 Sjde

      We used a professional property manager for the first 8 of our 10 years renting our 2 properties. We were also on VRBO.com and I had the property manager’s phone number on there for the tenant to contact. Renters did not pay anymore when we had a manager.nWe finally switched to managing it ourselves because they told me they got most of our rentals from VRBO (which we were paying for, not them), and because we always had one problem or another with them. They wouldn’t get back to someone who made an inquiry or it would take 2 days. I do it much better myself. I am not as busy as them and I am invested in it more. n I can understand renters feeling a degree of security if there is a property manager–it somehow seems more legit, you think there is someone else looking out for the cleanliness of the place, etc.n By the way, we have never had a bad review, just one so-so review out of many.nSue

      • Ian Inrig

        Sue
        Your comments are good but somewhat confusing, i.e. “Renters did not pay anymore when we had a manager. We finally switched to managing it ourselves because they told me they got most of our rentals from VRBO (which we were paying for, not them), and because we always had one problem or another with them” Who are “they” the renters or the managers? & who are “them”.VRBO or the renters? You can see my quandary! 
        IDI 

  • Portiaperu

    I’m a vrbo and homeaway advertiser and I’m troubled by the situation you describe. For those of us who devote considerable effort to our vacation homes and strive to offer the very best of experiences to our guests, this policy can only be harmful. nnI was not aware of the policy. I believe a negative review should be answered by the owner, and all points of view should be part of the rental property record.nnRats! Yikes. I’ve handled complaints of ants in the kitchen with better results than you obtained for rodents occupying the property. I know my response to the complaint was appropriate becuase the family returns year after year for their summer vacation.nnRental property owners should be held accountable. Otherwise we all lose our credibility.nnR @ edgartown, manwww.freewebs.com/katamadelight

    • Anonymous

      Totally agree. Responsible and accountable people like yourself can’t like this policy either. VRBO is clearly pandering to substandard folks to boost their revenue.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HVQ6J2ZCKHHYMXLGX5N5LQVDCA Milena

      Too bad that you seem to be the only one who recognizes that censorship is never a good thing…

  • http://www.HomeTipsandTools.com tinagleisner

    Wow, This isn’t a good situation for anyone. We’ve never used VRBO but have listed Nantucket properties on Home Away for quite a few years. My husband is very diligent about monitoring reviews and to the best of my knowledge, you can’t remove negative comments there. We only had one that made us angry – renters never called, and the negative comments only appeared on Home Away 9 months after the fact? We responded by asked other renters to submit their feedback … so there was a balanced story online.nnSome people are never satisfied. The cleaning crews have limited time (9am to 3pm) to get through lots of homes and everything is fine unless the it rains on the first day (Sunday) and people get cabin fever and look for things to complain about. We send cleaners back to the house, have replaced a failing refrigerator overnight (provided ice chests immediately) … but when someone complains about 6 week old bed sheets, then they’re really being nasty as they want a refund and never should have booked the home. Fortunately, we don’t have to rent to these people again and we let our on island real estate companies know who they are too.

  • A VRBO User

    I am a long time VRBO and Home Away user and advertiser with active listings. While I do not agree with a few of their policies, as someone that has paid thousands to advertise on their site I believe I should have some element of control over what is written publicly about my business on the site I pay to advertise with. If VRBO and Home Away were free to advertise on and if I chose to list there without paying for the service then it would be a different situation. nnHome Away, the parent company of VRBO, is the largest vacation rental listing site on earth. This private company has cornered the vacation rental advertising market by systematically buying out all of their competitors of any size or worth. Simply stated, NOT advertising on VRBO is nothing short of a major marketing mistake. For that reason, and due to the fact I am paying for their advertising service, anything posted that could harm my business is going to be of concern to me. nnOpting to remove a negative comment from the VRBO site does come with something of a ‘price’. Should that owner have a long history of positive reviews then all the good ones will be removed right along with that one, single negative review. Everything is erased, good and bad. The owner must then start over again with zero reviews. Personally, I have worked very hard for my many years of good reviews and would hate to see them disappear, but that would be the price paid and I think that is a fair policy and I should be provided this option. As a renter, if I saw that an owner had completely opted out of reviews altogether this would arouse suspicion and I’d either search for a different property or at the very least, ask the owner to explain the reason for opting out (and I doubt any reason offered would be very persuasive).nnI do not dispute that Mr. Mendelson appears to have some legitimate complaints about the rental and how the owner handled things, although it does appear that the owner did make attempts, successful or otherwise, to resolve the rodent issues. It would be helpful to have more information about the contract terms, advance fees and any damage deposits paid, the timeline and the negotiated settlement payment. For starters, how long did Mr. Mendelson actually stay in the rental? Did he stay for the entire three months and then attempt to get a full or partial refund? Two months? A few weeks? Mr. Mendelson states that his negotiated settlement was, “smaller than we deserved”. That’s fine but how much does he believe was deserved? What was paid out, how long did he actually stay and how much was returned? Once problems were disclosed how long did it take the owner to begin an attempt to resolve things? When Mr. Mendelson realized the problems were not being resolved or were not going to be resolved to his level of expectation, did he vacate or did he choose to stay on? The writer did not provide enough relevant info in his blog. There are too many unanswered questions to convince me that Mr. Mendelson is completely in the right. There are always at least two sides to a story.nnProblems with both private owners and professional management companies are a routine occurrence in the burgeoning vacation rental industry. Looking at the listing in question I see that the owner has a number of rental properties listed with VRBO. Per the ad, the Yountville property was first published in 2009, there have been 6000+ visitors to the ad page and the listing was last modified on January 15, 2011, probably about the time of the negative review submission.nnVRBO does review everything submitted for vacation rental reviews. If requested, the reviewer must be able to prove that the rental occurred. All content must be truthful and not misleading. Users cannot post a review or response for the purpose of trying to force an owner or a traveler to do something that the user wants him or her to do. The reviews are for the benefit of future travelers, not to allow one party to threaten the other. These are only a few of the guidelines for review. VRBO can remove reviews if guidelines are not followed. Mr. Mendelson must have met the review guidelines because the owner had to opt out of the review process. Had Mr. Mendelson not met the guidelines the review would have been thrown out with no consequences to the owner. nnIf anything, the lack of ‘ramifications for screwing one of their renters is debatable since you have outted VRBO here, on your turf. I doubt VRBO will care but the Yountville owner probably won’t be too happy about your piece and the direct link to his rental. That’s the difference you see… you can write an online, albeit subjective piece about your experience for the world to view and judge with no ramifications. On the other hand, I pay to advertise on VRBO and to a small degree can ‘call the shots’ with regard to my privately paid-for advertisement. I believe this is as it should be. If you stay at one of my vacation rentals you can write whatever you like on your blog here. If you write something I don’t like on my VRBO ad I might choose to opt out or keep the review and respond as the owner… my option, and I think that’s fair. nnLet me put it this way. I think it’s reasonable to assume there are some less than desirable renters out there. If one of them rents one of my places, proceeds to trash it and then when I garnish a portion of their damage deposit to cover my loss and they in turn unfairly trash my business on VRBO, I want the option of having that review removed or at the very least, opting out of reviews in total if that is the only choice provided me. To leave an owner with no recourse other than allowing all reviews to stand no matter what, is not what I signed up for. As a business owner and paying advertiser, I believe VRBO’s policy is fair.

    • Anonymous

      What happened in the particular case is irrelevant. My beef is not with the landlord and regardless of the contract and other things, the bottom line is that I should have a right, as a renter, to explain to other people my experiences and reviews of a landlord.rnrnIf VRBO allows landlords to remove negative feedback and keep the same links to their site, they are helping with the coverup of valid feedback. I don’t buy the removing feedback as a large negative, as this guy will just point to other listings that have good feedback. The other issue with VRBO is that it is by location, not landlord, which also has inherent issues.

    • Cherokee Trace

      Amen. It is a paid for ad short and sweet. No other industry mandates that companies buying paid ads be subject to reviews. I’m not saying there should not be reviews – there definitely should and I use tripadvisor all the time for example ( well used to until I found out there were many false reviews by guests/competitors using bad reviews as extortion). But see on the “subjective” sites owners don’t have to pay for the privilege of being lied about by manipulators. I have a great rating on these sites btw in case you thought I was bitter – I’m not – just totally pissed off that I have no control over a very expensive ad. An AD!! In a way it is extortion by vrbo and vacation rentals ( now owned by the same company and therefore have the same policies) because they know they are the only game in town to effectively advertise a small property and therefore can do anything to the owners and it will accepted.You also have to realize a small property owner is going to be unfairly disproportionately affected by a negative review for one and two that someone with an ax to grind is 50 times more likely to write a review than someone satisfied or even gloriously happy. There is definitely a place for reviews – but paying ads shouldn’t be one of them. Trip advisor, Kudzu, Yahoo travel etc are good forums for travel reviews. Posting reviews on paid ADS should be optional – none or all ( the good and the bad) owner’s choice .n

    • http://www.sunsetroyale.com Paulparr

      Please……Reviews are just that, good or bad. I believe all accommodation owners are allowed to refute or comment online regarding negative reviews and have them removed if the stay never occurred. Shame on VRBO on not providing honest reviews by removing negative reviews when requested by an owner. I like that FlipKey does not allow me to alter the comments of guests and want, very much, to take care of a problem a guest experienced at one of our properties. I also take a proactive stance with our rental guests and ask them what we could have done to improve their stay in our property. Needless to say I’m glowing inside when they state, “It could not have been better”.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Upstager Sharon Charboneau

      Why would VRBO allow the owner to “out” the reviewer and proceed to accuse them of making untruthful & exaggerated comments?
      In my case, the owner is basically calling me a iiar on-line altho the evidence is in her listing and in the emails exchanged.
      In my opinion this is unfair policy of VRBO

      • http://www.facebook.com/patrick.dement.9 Patrick DeMent

        Sounds like we rented the same cabin at 845 RD1B in Clark, Wyoming from a Michigan landlord…I’ve never trashed anything in my life but the landlord (after 100-days) still has not sent me a written claim for my $400 security deposit..she merely stalls and kept it..VRBO insisted I not be personal in my review then they let her openly and falsely allege that I trashed her cabin…They did the same with another recent reviewer as well.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Upstager Sharon Charboneau

      I agree with some of your points;however enough is enough.

      VRBO put me thru the same hoops as others who have written in.  They finally posted my review & in a follow up I see that the owner has responded, accusing me of lying.  Her comments are libellous, which can be proven by emails, & phone discussions she had with my husband.

      I am disgusted with VRBO allowing her to continue her unprofessional behaviour towards me and continue to post that wifi is available in her condo when it is not.

  • Ldeleon337

    Jason,nThere are two sides to this story. Here is mine. First of all you did not rent Yountville home. Jaquline Malan did. You are nowhere on the agreement.Actually Ms Malan was allowed to move in 2 days earlier than the contract stated. Free of charge. Yes I had the dates wrong at first but this was a harmless mistake and she knows it. Most short term renters on VRBO get payment upfront. If Ms Malan did not like the terms she should have looked elsewhere and not entered into the agreement as she did. Yountville is a beautiful spot in the Napa Valley surrounded by vineyards. Rodents come with the territory however my home had never had this problem. On a very cold day we encountered some rat infestation in the neighborhood. Ms Malan called me about the problem. She is right about my trying to deal with the situation myself before going to Terminex for assistance. There was one rat in the house which was killed in a trap. Upon Ms Malan’s return from a brief holiday, she called me again to tell me she felt creepy staying there any longer. I immediately put her in a Marriott hotel and paid for the room. We spoke the NEXT day and she informed me that she had found an alternative home and wanted to be reimbursed on a pro rata basis. I agreed and that day mailed a check for the amount minus the my standard cleaning fee of 150.00. Ms Malan had been in my home for about 10 weeks. The home did not appear to have been cleaned during that time. The kitchen was dirty and food had been left out. After a deep cleaning I moved back into my home. There was one rat total. Yes, that is one rat too many but this is the country. From what Ms Malan had expressed to me earlier, I got the idea that her work/intern situation in Yountville did not go well for her. Apparently not worth the money Jason gave her to rent my home. I have only received glowing reviews about my Yountville home as it is a beautiful jewel of a place. I take great pride in it. My Carmel property gets similar reviews. I did everything a responsible owner could do in this situation. I resent your poison pen review which isn not truthful Jason and you know it. I was in fact quite accommodating to Ms Malan under the circumstances. I think Ms Malan’s bad experience lies somewhere else in Yountville. Lupe

    • Anonymous

      You are correct. There are two sides of every story. I don’t agree withrnyours, but you can have one if you like. Your facts below are materiallyrninaccurate, but I don’t find it useful to refute each of them.rnrnWhat I find distasteful beyond the way you treated us was that you took downrnyour reviews. If you are really that great of a landlord, you should havernnothing to hide. And thus my issues with VRBO and how it allows people likernyou to hide behind their policies.rnrnTerminix told us that it was the worst infestation they had seen. They toldrnus that Jacqueline had to move out because it wasn’t safe due to possiblerndisease. I doubt there was only one rat. And either way, you negotiatingrnus out of money was cheap and inappropriate in my opinion. Like I said,rnlife is too short to sue you, but I do hope you enjoy the Forbes articlernwith your name in it. We have pictures of your place with rat feces allrnover the place including insulation coming out from the walls. We also havernthe contact information for the cleaning people and the exterminators.rnPerhaps you should speak with them.rnrnYou will note that I could delete your review on my blog, but will choose tornlet you say your piece and respond to your post. This is all I wanted fromrnyou and VRBO regarding your place. I’ll be watching your listings to see ifrnyou decide to post reviews in the future.

      • Ldeleon337

        Jason,nI put the reviews back so that people could get a better idea of the truth. VRBO a company you seem so intent on trashing is not a bad company. . Terminix refunded my money and reprimanded the young man dispatched to evaluate the situation. He it seems exaggerated the situation to Jackie to get me to sign a long term agreement with them. I did the best I could as a responsible owner. My countless other reviews speak for themselves and I invite people to visit my properties on the VRBO site. So you have a friend at Forbes. I spoke to her. Big deal. Jason I think you should spend more time playing your guitar instead of all this negative energy you put out on the internet. Meet me Yountville some time. I can recommend someone to give you guitar lessons.

        • Anonymous

          Then you should have never taken the review off if you had nothing to fear.rnSorry, I don’t buy the explanations that you have for everything as it isrnjust more of the same for you. Always an excuse. Remember why you couldn’trnpay for a good hotel for Jacq? You said you were living paycheck tornpaycheck. It’s always something with you. As for Forbes, I actually onlyrnmet the reporter once. It was a compelling story and that is why she wroternit. I’ll pass on hooking up with you Yountville. Thanks.

    • Anonymous

      Just checked out your listing. Thanks for putting my review back. It’s the right thing to do. Sorry our experience didn’t work out. Sorry that I had to go public, but you didn’t leave us a choice and I thought the way you treated Jacqueline during the process was poor form and your blog post only continued that form. Her experience in Yountville (which was great and she’s going back) had nothing to do with our issues with you.

  • Duped

    I have just run into a conflict with Homeaway over a negative review I also want posted.The run around is huge and now the owner says we did not stay at the property-I must have made a mistake.I have an email from the owner asking me to not submit the review and she will give me a full refund.I am so angry over the entire situation I don’t have the energy yet to even decide if I want to keep fighting.I do know I will never use any of these services again-maybe a good hotel is better after all.

  • http://unfgreen.myopenid.com/ unfgreen

    This was my experience last summer. A factual, but negative review, I wrote about the beach house my family rented last year was never posted by VRBO. Instead of posting and allowing the property owner to comment VRBO sent me this response a link to their review guidelines:nnThe review you submitted does not meet our guidelines and it cannot be posted at this time.nnYour review must be in your own words. [It was] We will not modify or change the content you submit, nor can we tell you how to change your review to conform with the guidelines because giving you guidance as to what to say is the same thing as modifying or editing it ourselves. We invite you to resubmit your review. Before you do that, please take a minute to read our guidelines. You can then resubmit it by clicking on the link below or copy/paste the link into your browser. Your current review text is displayed at the bottom of this message.

    • Anonymous

      Yep. The more I’ve learned about Home Away / VRBO, the more that I knowrnthat it’s a company that I don’t want to do business with.

  • PDuff

    I recently had a negative review from some impossible-to-please (and OCD) guests who were completely unreasonable. When I didn’t roll over to their unreasonable demands for a full refund after addressing all of their minor complaints for a 3-month rental, they said they sued me and got their money back (not true) and my neighbor with a key lets herself into supervise daily, even when it’s occupied (also untrue and illegal). When I complained to VRBO about a review accusing me of breaking civil laws without proof, their only response was that I could respond in kind OR remove my listing (but without a refund). Really, VRBO? Reviewers can engage in libel and you say you bare no responsibility and don’t require proof for an illegal act? Sounds like they’re setting themselves up for a class action lawsuit, if you ask me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dreaminofthetropics Kat Ford

    I am currently waiting on VRBO’s fraud team? to respond to a complaint so I guess I will see where that goes. I rented VRBO #314330 two weeks ago. The property manager Michelle met me at the house and said the owner said we had to have cash which we brought, plus give a $500 check for deposit. We were in the house less than 48hrs as ours was just a weekend rental. We agreed with Michelle to clean the house ourselves which we did. The first night we discovered NONE of the four TVs worked and I called her and she said that she would see about getting the cable company out but it was the weekend, they never showed of course. The DVD players of which each room was supposed to have either were non existent or they had NO CORDs to hook them up. The washer and dryer were so loud they could have been heard next door. Also the last day we were there Michelle texted me that the house was going to be shown that day as it was on the market, so we spent our last morning there cleaning the house in expectance of this “showing” and noone ever called or showed up. I didn’t go swimming with my kids because I was waiting on a call from Michelle’s sister about coming to show the house essentially wasting our last day there. Then Michelle tells me she can’t come to the house to meet me and give me my deposit back and get the key and she will mail my check back to me. Now three weeks later my check is cashed (I had emailed to ask if everything was satisfactory and when it would be mailed with no response) So, today I see the check is cashed, try to call no answer, I filed a complaint with BBB and emailed stating I would seek legal counsel and all of a sudden I get an immediate response of course. Now, 3 weeks later she is claiming that we damaged the bamboo flooring under the dining room table that we never used! We ate out everytime except one meal which was eaten on the patio. I’m really in shock right now as her accusations are completely false and I am a nursing student and can’t afford to be without this $500. I haven’t left a review on VRBO, but now it seems if I do it might never be seen…. SOOO frustrating :( I have used VRBO numerous times over the years and NEVER had an experience like this. I scraped money together for the rental to take a break before my last two months of nursing school and Michelle knew that, but yet can’t email or call about supposed issues before cashing my check and ignoring my emails. Any suggestions????

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HVQ6J2ZCKHHYMXLGX5N5LQVDCA Milena

      Don’t stay at places found through VRBO

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B3AVRC2FMTMJAFCFUGRBJX7DSI Donc

    I wish there was a place that we could all write our own reviews without them being censored by VRBO. We had a similar experience at a recent stay at the Mauni Lani Palm Villas on the big island of Hawaii. Great reviews and comments….except all untrue! “Well furnished and professionally decorated,” 3 bedroom, 2 bath = total of four chairs in entire 1100sq ft condo! “Fabulous kitchen with everything you might need,” ONE dinner fork, two serving bowls, no serving flatware! There ought to be some requirement for truth. One thing we did notice later was that all the reviews were over a year old…obviously the owner deleted anything negative for the last year. Buyer beware, Don and Kate Claeys

  • Flcondomgr

    Beware RESIDENCES ON HOLLYWOOD BEACH DO NOT ALLOW SORT TERM RENTAL No matter what you or what you signed. If you show up you will be turned away. You vacation will be disaster

  • Buzzlake

    Bait and Switch.nnI rented a place in Vancouver for a nice week of skiing. We rented the penthouse. The seller only had one place on VRBO. When we got there we were given a place on the basement level and “under repair” would be nice. The funny part is we visited friends and they rented the same place from the same seller for the same dates. So we sat in the place we rented, and have copies of the two contracts for the same place at the same time. What a scam.nnWe contacted VRBO and we got nothing. They asked for our rental contract we sent both. Then nothing….. except VRBO blocked US from even commenting on the listing company as complete crooks.nnVRBO was part of the fraud. Then they cover it up. They did say “sorry” and I should have bought insurance from them. Didn’t make me feel any better.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HVQ6J2ZCKHHYMXLGX5N5LQVDCA Milena

      They are crooks! You should tell your story to more people….

  • Kat

    Sooo….nnWhere does one go to find a respectable property to rent? We’re heading out to Hawaii (Oahu) this summer for two weeks. Its our third summer vacation in a row there and I’ve booked the same hotel we’ve used twice before. I found we spent so much time in the car travelling up to the North Shore away from the tourist-y bustle of Waikiki and thought, perhaps, it would be great to split the holiday time between Waikiki and find a place on the Ocean to rent on the North Shore. Hotels are scarce up there! I’ve gone through the VRBO website and was looking for feedback outside of their website when I stumbled into the fray here. There must be thousands of VRBO listings on Oahu and I haven’t counted the number that come up on the North Shore BUT I’ve learned there are only 875 LEGAL listings on the entire Island. This is according to the Department of Planning and Permitting – Code Compliance Branch for the City and County of Honolulu of properties which have been issued Non-Conforming Use Certificates (they list a few North Shore properties). Say what??? Suppose an owner gets their operation shut down while someone is in the middle of their vacation? Not a savory thought.nnThe more I’m discovering the less I’m liking renting through VRBO or ANY ‘by owner’ websites. Looks like we’ll be doing a lot of driving again this year. nnThanks for the article Jason. n

    • Anonymous

      I work for a vacation rental company in Marco Island, FL. http://www.IslandEsc.com
      We pay a lot of money to rank on the top of the major search engines. We work in partnership with the homeowners. When you book with a company, you have more of a support system in case things go wrong. You are not dealing with absentee owners who conveniently are unavailable when something breaks during your vacation. At my company, someone is on call 24 hours a day. I can vouch for that since I was on call last night when my cell phone rang at 11pm to report problems with all toilets in the house. I called the local plumber and sent them right over. Done. Keep the guests happy. So, my suggestion here would be to search for actual rental agencies when doing your vacation search. I found an interesting site for Hawaii rentals. I can’t seem to figure out if it is a rental agency or just a site for owners to advertise on, but it does prove that the guest reviews are fair, some good, some bad with owners replying to them in their defense. Here it is:
      http://www.hawaiianbeachrentals.com/oahu-vacation-rentals-1.htm
      Best of luck!

      Thanks for the article Jason. Very interesting to hear all of the feedback. We advertise on VRBO and Homeaway and all of the companies they bought. Fortunately, we have not bought into the guest review portion of the sites, it must be an extra fee or something.  Seems like they charge a fee for everything now if you want to stay ranked on their site. We also advertise on FlipKey which trickles down to Tripadvisor and their guest review policy is an all or nothing one. We have to let the bad reviews in, but we have the platform to respond to them. If there was a really bad one that was bogus or trashing, management told me we could dispute it and they would review it. But if you dispute more than 3, then they take action and review your contract.

      • Trent Blizzard

        Good advice: Rent from a Vacation Rental Manager!   It may be a bit more expensive, but it is safer and more reliable.

  • Jessydown

    I am a long time VRBO and Home Away user and advertiser with active listings. While I do not agree with a few of their policies, as someone that has paid thousands to advertise on their site I believe I should have some element of control over what is written publicly about my business on the site

  • Janellemartinson

    As a long time advertiser on VRBO I have to say that since the mega corporation, HOMEAWAY took over and bought up most vacation rental sites, the quality and service have seriously been lacking. What other service does one pay thousands of dollars to, yet the company won’t even give you a customer service number? They are ALL about the $$$$$.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HVQ6J2ZCKHHYMXLGX5N5LQVDCA Milena

    I just had a similiar experience to yours. VRBO are crooks and totally endorse the wrongful behavior of their customers, i.e. the property owners who list on their website. When it comes to the censorship of reviews, they can beat any totalitarian regime with their skills.

    We stayed at Dan Beegan’s condo in Vancouver (future renters beware, this guy will take more money from you than you were prepared to give him!!!). The condo itself was OK, but we paid a $500 deposit. It took Dan Beegan two weeks after our departure to confirm that he sent us the money back via money order??? We could never verify this btw. Who does money orders any more? If he could collect 100% from the payment for the stay upfront via PayPal, why couldn’t he refund the deposit via PayPal? Anyways, a month later when nothing had arrived in the mail, we contacted him to ask where the money was. He said that the Canadian postal services were on strike and it was probably sitting in a warehouse somewhere,…didn’t offer to refund it via different means or anything, actually acted very annoyed that we had asked. Six weeks later, still no money. We asked again and he shared that he once waited for a refund for 6 weeks, so we should be fine with waiting as well. Two months later, (no more postal strike), still no money. We asked that he used PayPal and he refused. Fed up at this point, we wrote a review describing the above. VRBO instantly rejected it on account of it having nothing to do with the property……Seriously??? Serioulsy? Like anyone who had known that their $500 will never be returned to them would want to stay there…Nothing to do with the property…..We then changed the review and described the property, the very worn out bedding etc. The review was once again rejected….I agree with you. VRBO is a company of crooks. Their employees are rude and arrogant. Anyone reading this – save yourself the hassle and stay at a hotel or find a rental in a different way.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.alexander.75457 Kevin Alexander

      Unfortunate, experiencing similar problems with landlord & deceitful practices. Looking for help with recourse to have this guy removed from their site, any ideas?

  • Anonymous

    VRBO appears unwilling to give you the whole story when it
    comes to rental reviews. I recently rented a VRBO property ( vrbo # 309835) where it did not go
    well and I wrote an in-dept review of this rental experience, but it never made
    the review list for that property. Only the glowing reviews were included. The
    unsatisfactory ones, like mine, were left out. I had a very bizarre and
    disrespectful experience with a homeowner and I’m sure that I am not the only
    one that he has treated badly. If VRBO pledges to provide balanced and
    comprehensive service to all of its subscribers, it should be willing to give
    an honest and balanced appraisal of its product so that consumers are not
    blindsided by problem owners. I don’t think I will be using VRBO as a data base
    for rental property in the future.

  • Anonymous

    Hallo Jason,

    We had a similar experience with a landlord of a villa (Villa Volpe) near Lucca in Italy. This man, Luciano Sidrak Masetti, offers this house via HomeAway (=VRBO) and provides both on its website and through emails  misinformation and asks on the spot more money than agreed. Our  holiday has suffered by this actions. Like you I try to post an honest review on the site of HomeAway, but until know it is not placed.  It is good that this information is visible on the internet like on your website.I’m not expert enough to build a website and maintain, but would appreciate if you post my response.Sincerely,Henk van der Leer
    Holland
    h.a.vanderleer@online.nl

  • Rich Lutch

    I just had the same type of experience with a property in Miramar Beach Florida.  I wrote a 100% truthful accurate review.  I gave the owner the benefit of seeing my review before sending it to VRBO. VRBO posted it for a day and then took it down…I cannot get an answer from them as to why or if it will be back up. This type of censorship will lead me to never use VRBO again.

  • Anonymous

    I have used VRBO on multiple occasions with generally good results.  This past week, my wife and I rented a cabin in the Boone, NC area.  The reviews were all glowing.  The cabin is on a beautiful location and has lots of potential.  However, it also was VERY dirty and was not well maintained.  We attempted to post a review with very honest positives and negatives.  We then immediately got a call from the owner who indicated concern about the condition of the property and offered us a modest refund – which was nice.  However, we then were advised by the owner that she and her partner owned multiple cabins in the area which were very profitable and relied upon good reviews.  She told us that since our review would not actually be posted for seven days, once we edited the review to a more favorable one, she would then authorize the refund.  In other words, the offer of a refund was not really to reimburse us for our inconvenience, but for an agreement to edit the review before it was actually posted.  In effect, the VRBO’s review system allows owners to buy good reviews.  Unfortunately I will not be able to give much credibility to VRBO’s reviews in the future, i.e., if we ever use them again.